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Old 09-29-2011 (03:23 AM)
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Default Forest Fire - Dark Pulse's OU Sun team! [Peaked 75th] (RMT)

My old RMT (smogon)

Hey Guys, I'm back with my old sun team! This time there are a few minor changes. This is my current PO team, and it used to be really successful, but the metagame changes, and now I'm starting to lose more than win. Which is why I came here! So here it is, the Forest Fire!

My team at a glance:

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The team-Building Process:

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So... I decided I wanted to build a new team! I Looked at a Sheer Force Team featuring a NIdoking, but couldn't find inspiration for partners...
It was then that I remembered hearing about Darmanitan. that LO+Drought+Sheer Force made one very strong Flare Blitz... so I decided to make a Drought team...
I started off with just those 2 Pokemon
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/038.gifhttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/555.gif

That's when I remembered seeing Venusaur. I'd battled Drought teams before, and often had a Venusaur switch in to destroy my Toxic Spikes, then continue to sweep through me with seemingly godlike speed (it outsped my froslass, I knew it was boosted somehow)
so I looked up Venusaur, and found it's DW Ability to be Chlorophyl
I then added Venusaur to my team
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After Figuring out Chlorophyl made Venusaur Faster than Deoxys-S with no investment (as long as sun was in play) I looked to find another Chlorophyl User. I found Leafeon
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That made 4 Pokemon. I thought about using Harvest, hearing about how Tropius could PP Stall eternally in sun by using Synthesis @Leppa Berry/Harvest, so I thought of putting him in. Then I noticed Exeggutor also had Harvest... So I added him instead
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Next up, I needed a Lead... After a fair bit of looking (well, not much) I decided on Heatran, as it could absorb Fire attacks my Grass types Hated, and was immune to Sandstorm Damage... And he had Access to the Rocks, that always helps...
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Now with my team complete, I went off and tested battling
*still loses*
I found that Despite using Adamant, Focus Sashed SD Leafeon, I didn't have the coverage to do the damage I wanted to deal... After a lot of asking and arguing on PO, I found out that Sawsbuck had the Coverage I was looking for, despite the lack of speed and attack... So I swapped Leafeon for him
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My last Change was Suggested by a moderater on the Smogon PO server called +Shrang. When I found myself with problems facing fire types, Rain teams, and Tyranitar. He suggested me using ChestoRest Kingdra, which has proved to be quite useful in my team... I swapped Exeggutor out for him
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The team then went well... but it was having trouble with stall a bit... particularly rocks and spikes...
After asking around, I have decided to add Claydol as a dedicated Rapid Spinner/Stealth Rocker. Due to it's immunity to spikes, and resistance to SR, as well as having access to the much-needed spin+rocks...
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Since then, I have decided that Forretress is a better option, but I may change back to Claydol at any given moment...
Forretress also adds that much needed steel-typing to take care of Powerful Outrages...
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well that's my team as it is now! It's still having trouble with Stall, now it's T-wave - it screws up my speed and has that all-too annoying Paralysis effect, plus there's no clause, so often my entire team gets paralysed and theres nothing I can do about it...

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After asking around on Smogon, I have swapped Kingdra for Dugtrio - and it was the best change I ever made! If I use him correctly, he kills anything this team has trouble with - T-tar, Poli, Hippo, Heatran, Volcarona, and so much more!!!
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After a bit of testing, I have decided to swap Darmanitan for Arcanine - as suggested by New World Order (I think) - for better coverage and fire immunity (plus, Flash Fire boost > Sheer force, more power, AND I still have the burn chance)
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Howls {moving} Castle (Forretress) (M) @ Leftovers [PICK MY NICKNAME TODAY!!!]
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes
- Volt Switch
- Stealth Rock

You've seen Howl's Moving Castle? Well this guy is literally a moving Fortress! This guy is my dedicated spinner/Rocker, and has spikes there so it can keep busy (and troll T-tar and Poli better). Volt Switch for extra momentum, and to run away from HP Fire abusing Magnetz (how do they work? It don matter now!)

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RageFace (Venusaur) (M) @ Black Sludge
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 204 HP / 136 Def / 160 SAtk / 8 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Energy Ball
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Sludge Bomb
- Growth

Meet RageFace, my Pride and Joy. This guy is my favourite Pokemon and my best ever creation. He has enough speed to beat anything non-scarfed, and enough Power to take down most of his threats, He also has a LOT of Bulk. 204 EV's is a leftovers No. on Venusaur, and his Bulk is dead even (EDIT: he has 1 less defence point, so that Download Pory-Z Doesn't get the SA boost)
Now, before you go complaining, yes, that IS a Black Sludge. I know the whole controversy about B-sludge being worse than Leftovers, but to be honest, I think Black Sludge is better, because nobody is going to Trick a Choice Scarf or Choice Specs on to this guy after he +2's, especially if they'll take extra damage from doing so...
This is the one Pokemon I won't accept any advice from, don't even bother trying to edit him, It took me too long to make.

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/059.gif
TrollFace (Arcanine) (M) @ Life Orb [Pick my nickname today!!!]
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Flare Blitz
- Wild Charge
- Close Combat
- Extremespeed

My Physical tyrant sweeper with Flare Blitz, and my unexpected T-tar and Poli check - I need to be fast though, unless I can OHKO them with Wild Charge or CC, I get OHKO'd by SE or H-Pump, so it's kinda a double-edged sword...

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/051.gif
Grounded! (Dugtrio) (M) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 252 Atk / 24 Def/ / 228 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Sucker Punch
- Reversal

Thanks a bunch to MasterofOz for this! It's the best change I ever made to this team! He's the perfect Revenge Killer - and he kills any threat to my team!!!
EDIT: Thanks to my IRL Brother for Grounded! (get it? You can't switch, you're grounded?)

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/586.gif
Flower Power (Sawsbuck) (F) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Horn Leech
- Swords Dance
- Nature Power (EQ)
- Return

This guy is just amazing. Nature Power is Earthquake in Wi-fi, except for one thing:
It bypasses sucker Punch
This guy is my go-to-girl against Politoed. one Horn leech is an instant OHKO, as well as a free-heal if they go for a scarf Ice beam. 301 HP means he can survive 3 Seismic tosses without getting healing from Horn leech.

SD also allows me to boost his power to monumental levels, after a SD in the sun, both his Speed and attack reach over 500...
(note: Female is only for aesthetic reasons [Flower Power])

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Naruto (Ninetales) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Drought
EVs: 188 HP / 64 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Protect
- Disable
- Flamethrower
- Toxic (Will-o-Wisp?)

and Finally, the most important member of my team, Ninetales - Thanks to HAHADaruma for the awesome trolly set - Protect on the first turn, predicting a powerful attack - then Disable it, Toxic, and stall! (so awesome) - Untested, but it looks so hilariously awesome!!!

-Poke-Graveyard-
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DrizzleSwim? (Kingdra) (M) @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 144 HP / 160 Atk / 40 SDef / 164 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Waterfall
- Rest

swapped for Dugtrio

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TrollFace (Darmanitan) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Sheer Force
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Superpower
- Flare Blitz
- Rock Slide
- U-turn

Where would RageFace be without a TrollFace around? This is Darmanitan, Pokemon's Biggest Troll since Electrode. Just look at his face, he's about to pound your head in, AND kill you with fire. U Jelly?
Swapped for Arcanine
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thanks guys for taking the time to read my RMT, and I hope to get some Constructive critisism (GTFO if you aren't going to be constructive)
NOTE: 2 of my Pokemons need new Nicknames! (I always give trolly or funny nicknames, but sometimes I'm not creative enough) so I'm letting you pick them!!! If you can't think of any suggestions for my team, you can VM me the new names, (note: I will give credit for names)

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Old 09-29-2011 (03:42 AM)
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-Threat List-

(currently unfinished, will pretty it up soon)

-Major Threats-
Conkledurr
Dragonite
Politoed


-Minor Threats-
Tyranitar - Get forry in, then V-switch to Trio = dead T-tar
Reuniclus - Takes a bit of work, but Arcanine or Sawsbuck usually take down the Jelly. U jelly?

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Old 09-29-2011 (10:40 AM)
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Default Re: Forest Fire - Dark Pulse's OU Sun team! [Peaked 75th] (RMT)

Very nice, very very nice team.

However, you seem to have a pretty large opening for Ice Types, or any relatively bulky Pokemon with HP Ice (Lapars, Cloyster )
Also, what if the opponent gets some SR on you? That screws over 2 of your important Pokemon.
I personally have a Magic Coat spamming lead, after all, why waste slots on Rapid Spin or Spikes when I can just send the entry hazards back to my opponent?
Possibly switch Foretress for Ferro? In case of lolOutrage dragons? Just throwing that out there.
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Old 10-17-2011 (11:14 AM)
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lol melissa @ other thread

yeah, but I posted that one in the wrong spot - this is the right one...

Obvious bump is obvious, but I'm still considering swapping Arcanine for Heatran. Any thoughts???
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I think the team is very good and I would keep the arcanine instead of the heatran, but like pivott said, your going to have a hard time with ice types and I would look into some sort of strategy for that. Other than that great team
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Thanks for your opinion, but Ice has absolutely no threat. Mamoswine is the only ice type with any possible threat, and Venasaur tanks an Ice shard and OHKO's back with HP fire. Other than that, Arcanine flare blitz or tales flamethrower (after disabling OHKOing moves) = win

my biggest issue is Conkledurr atm - once he gets a bulk up, I can't touch him. My only hope is tales flame then disable the move, hoping to kill him with special attacks...
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Default Re: Forest Fire - Dark Pulse's OU Sun team! [Peaked 75th] (RMT)

Ahaha omg, NOW I see this thread!

Ok, my critism will not be strong, but here goes.

First off, you have a good team. Why? Because you have all the moves of the types, if you know what I mean. at first when you mentioned forest fire, I basically thought your team was going to be made up of fire type pokemons, because if it was, then members would take advantage of that by bringing in a team of water type pokemons to take your wonderful team down. Trust me, it happened to me back when I knew little about pokemon and it was not a funny situation. Your team, whats the perfect way to say it-? Hmm, its FLAWLESS, and I mean that its a perfect team to my perspective. That is also why I cannot provide a strong critism, because there is nothing to critisize about cuz its a very good team. Also, I still havent figured out cloysters weekness-yah I know right? I just never bothered finding out, so I usually take it down by sacrificing two good pokemons which I will not do when we are battling-I will be making sure to double check each of their weekness's before facing this interesting team. I shall surely reveal my team as well after fighting you, but anyways

You know how to put together a team, I'd also like to see how you plan on keeping that venasuar of yours alive... Tehehee... also having volt switch is a fenominal idea. Volt switch is best effective when the foe only has a certain move set it uses not affective to one of your pokemom on your team, so at times, that newly switched pokemon may not even accounter damage. I surely cant wait to see this team in action! Who knows... You may just be stronger than me.
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oh it's on! RageFace is gonna take you down...

in other news, I'm implementing the threat list now
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